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A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby travishauch » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:41 pm

Hi. I live in northeastern wisconsin and have a ranch home with a hip roof. It currently has fiberboard? siding on the top half and aluminum siding with some white foam backing on the bottom half. I'm looking to tear that off and replace with vinyl siding.

I pulled off a little section of siding to see what's underneath and it is tar paper. I've read online with mixed feelings. Could I leave it on instead of re-wrapping the house if the tar paper is intact? The house was built in 1963.


2nd question. The front half of my house is brick. I'm looking at how to address the corners because the edge of the brick is flush with the house instead of sticking out past for the j channel. I was thinking about notching an outside corner piece but I don't think that is going to work because the top half corner looks to be farther back on the house. (hopefully it's explained in the picture.)

My third question is in regards to the final row of siding where it meets the eave. My current siding measures 8' which I'm guessing would end with a full piece. Am I going to have issues securing it at the top? Should I start a little lower/higher? If it works out, should I use a j channel and undersill trim or can I use just the undersill trim?

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Re: A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby Shannon » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:56 pm

I generally remove the tar paper and discard it so that I can be sure there is no rot or other issues being covered up. I then use a house wrap to cover the walls and finally siding over that.House wrap is really pretty inexpensive ,maybe about .10cents a square foot depending where you live.
It looks like the brick will be slightly proud of the plywood once you get the siding off so you can just butt a J channel up to the back side of it in most cases and a corner on the upper area above the brick section.
The point where your last row of siding will end depends on what the width of the siding you have chosen is? It generally ends up ending at what ever point it will end up and either a J channel or a J channel and undersill trim will work up there. I order enough of both and return what I do not use.Once you know the exposure of your new siding you can get a pretty good idea of where it will end up being cut at the top and you can adjust the bottom starting height a little if you need to.
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Re: A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby travishauch » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:37 pm

Shannon wrote:I generally remove the tar paper and discard it so that I can be sure there is no rot or other issues being covered up. I then use a house wrap to cover the walls and finally siding over that.House wrap is really pretty inexpensive ,maybe about .10cents a square foot depending where you live.

Sounds like a good idea. I should take it off to inspect the sheathing.
My local store has these three options. What do you think? Or I could check out Lowes.
https://www.menards.com/main/building-m ... 6086249177
https://www.menards.com/main/building-m ... 6877816510
https://www.menards.com/main/building-m ... oreId=3141

Shannon wrote:It looks like the brick will be slightly proud of the plywood once you get the siding off so you can just butt a J channel up to the back side of it in most cases and a corner on the upper area above the brick section.

What do you mean? I took another picture to show the edge of the brick. It's flush with the foundation. The side of the J channel would be exposed. But from the looks of it where the foundation meets the brick is too far forward. It won't line up with the outside corner.
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Shannon wrote:The point where your last row of siding will end depends on what the width of the siding you have chosen is? It generally ends up ending at what ever point it will end up and either a J channel or a J channel and undersill trim will work up there. I order enough of both and return what I do not use.Once you know the exposure of your new siding you can get a pretty good idea of where it will end up being cut at the top and you can adjust the bottom starting height a little if you need to.


Thank you. I'll see what I can figure out once I start tearing off. I have 2 strips of siding now to finalize the color. I was thinking of cutting them into 3' sections and connect them to get a better idea.

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Re: A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby Shannon » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:49 pm

Typar is my product choice, I have never seen the other two you showed.
I see you are correct ,the brick is flush. I guess you could leave that thin piece of wood that is there and butt the J to that? You will then likely need a short piece of J across the top to get under the corner as well.
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Re: A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby travishauch » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:41 pm

Shannon wrote:Typar is my product choice, I have never seen the other two you showed.
I see you are correct ,the brick is flush. I guess you could leave that thin piece of wood that is there and butt the J to that? You will then likely need a short piece of J across the top to get under the corner as well.


That's the j channel for the siding. The side edge is shown. Is that ok to do for vinyl siding? Showing the edge it is currently and not butting up to something?

Also, with the typar and re-wrapping the house, how do I go about getting it under window sills and around edges and such? Or am I just taping those edges and not trying to wrap them inside? (except top of course.) I see some wrap and staple inside but your video shows just cutting the opening out. Only difference is my windows/doors are already there.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: A few questions before I install new vinyl siding

Postby Shannon » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:05 pm

Oh thats a J. Ya the vinyl siding J could be done the same way.

Cut the opening out and tape the wrap. After the J is installed I have also started to tape the warp to the J to try and divert water into the J instead of under. Keep your tape back a bit so it does not show after the siding is installed or use a white house wrap tape that does not show as bad as red. My stores have been offering different colors lately.
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