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Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:53 am
by bylandorriver
Hey there!

I just bought a house a year ago, so I am chipping away at projects (thank you so much for the help Shannon!). I have floor vent that is at my feet when standing at the sink. The edge of the vent also sits under one of the dishwasher feet (see attached pictures). It is very inconvenient and I would like to install a vent that has a little bit of a 90 degree facing away from the cabinets, as well as get out from under the foot of the dishwasher. Ultimately, it needs to be a very custom vent cover. Can someone tell me how to acquire such an item with money or diy? Or, is there another suggestion to fix the problem?

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:00 am
by Shannon
If you have access can you run it over to the kick area of the cabinet and install it in the face of the kick?You will then have to patch the floor which is a whole other issue of course.

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:13 am
by emtnut
Something like this would work well

https://www.amazon.ca/Imperial-Pop-Up-F ... mqy7n44p_e

you can get these in 3x10 as well

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:36 am
by A. Spruce
Relocating the vent will be your best option. Any form of "deflector" is still going to be a toe grabber or catch falling debris.

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:06 pm
by emtnut
A. Spruce wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:36 am
Relocating the vent will be your best option. Any form of "deflector" is still going to be a toe grabber or catch falling debris.
Agreed, and now that I look at it, the opening is where the dishwasher is (will be ?)

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:19 am
by bylandorriver
By kick area of the cabinet, you mean move it left as seen in the picture? I don’t think there are any obstructions below the floor, so yes, I think. I would just need to extend the ducting below, I think and repair the floor like you said, which the floors were just laid and I have scraps leftover, so that may be convenient.

To the other question, the dishwasher does sit on the back right of the vent as shown in the picture.

It seems that if I can move the hole in the floor, I can use the vent mentioned on Amazon.

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:22 am
by bylandorriver
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Here is the dishwasher and vent after pushing the dishwasher in.
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Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:12 pm
by A. Spruce
What about moving the vent back under the cabinet and have it come through the face of the toe-kick on the cabinet? This gets it out of the way and positioned so stuff can't drop into it.

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:18 pm
by bylandorriver
Ah, I think this is what Shannon was suggesting in the first comment...that does sound really good. I will have to take a look in the basement (which is unfinished thankfully) and see if that is feasible. Still, I think I will have to extend the ducting, which I may need to look up a video on. I will take a look when I get home later.

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:29 pm
by A. Spruce
By Golly, you're right! Just goes to show, great minds think alike. 8-)

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:21 pm
by Shannon
Yes I would move it to the kick of the cabinet instead of in the floor

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:50 pm
by bylandorriver
Ok, looks like this job got pretty big. The vent to upstairs is right next to a floor joist and needs to move to the other side of the joist. How would you go about moving the ducting to the other side of the joist? Looks like the ducting to tie into may be an intake?

Re: Need vent that food doesn’t fall in

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:22 pm
by Shannon
Ya what you are saying you want to tie into is the cold air return and that is not what you want. Are there other options of shortening or lengthening the existing pipe and moving the duct somewhere else in that joist space?

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:04 am
by bylandorriver
Of course! Ok, I think this could work. See what you think. E is for Existing vent location. P is for proposed vent location in toe kick of cabinet. I am on much needed vacation😁 and don’t have a picture to see that I can extend the ducting without hitting any obstructions. Actually, I found a picture and looks like there may be a cross support in the way. I am unsure the purpose of these as they are placed sporadically through the floor joists.

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:54 am
by Shannon
I can't tell from that picture what those supports are or if they are needed. It would not seem there is any reason for them if they are directly below the corner cabinets? Unless there was a joint in the plywood flooring or something right there? They would not need to be full depth if thats all they are doing?

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:46 am
by bylandorriver
See pics. There is a 2x8 laying flat to the underside of the subfloor and a 2x4 on the bottom side of the floor joists. I can see how the 2x8 would be there for support for the subfloor, but I am not sure about the 2x4. There are 2x4s places like this at random. Do you think it is needed? Seems like I could lay the 2x4 flat and still on the bottom side of the joists and run ducting over it.

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:01 am
by Shannon
The 2/4 may be to keep joists from twisting or it was there to attach a wall to at one time? You can run ducts between them.

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:13 am
by A. Spruce
Yep! I'm betting the 2x6 are supporting seams in the subfloor, the 2x4 is for joist twist. Removing the 2x4 isn't going to cause you any heartache now, it's primarily when lumber is green/wet, if it's not held captive until it cures, it's going to twist and warp.

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:21 am
by bylandorriver
Thank y’all so much. I don’t think you have any videos on ducting? I can just YouTube, haha. Any tips before getting going?

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:31 am
by Shannon
Metal duct comes in a few diameters and lengths so you need to see what diameter you need and figure out the best lengths to purchase to fit together to make up the distance. Along with any fittings like boots and elbows. Basically you are building a puzzle of pipe pieces. The pipes generally come as semi round sheets that have a seem down the length that when inserted together forms a pipe. The pipes can be cut to length with aviation snips.
Once you get everything cut and fit together you can insert short sheet metal screws (2-3 per joint) to hold things together and foil tape to seal the seams.
It’s really kind easy once you have the parts and start to get it together . Usually building from the existing duct towards the final position is easiest.
Good luck

Re: Where should I relocate my floor heat duct vent to?

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:12 am
by daisy_pinckly
Thanks for sharing