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My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:03 am

Hi,
As I am changing out old tub I would like to post my questions here.
Any advises are welcome as well.
I am installing MAAX Essence tub surround
https://maax.com/PublishFolder/BuilderS ... 4EF40E.pdf
1. My house was built 1980. Do I need to change yellowish fiberglass mats (covered with plastic film)?
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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:11 pm

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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by A. Spruce » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:14 pm

The only reason you'd need to change the insulation is if it is wet or damaged. From what I see in the pic, looks fine to me.

Shannon will have to weigh in on the vapor barrier, it's not something I've had to deal with in my locale
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Post by Shannon » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:02 pm

Ya insulation looks ok.
The vapour barrier is not the correct product any more and you could change it but in reality the amount you are changing is doing very little to improving your entire home since 95% of the remaining walls have what you see there. Its a bit of a toss up really. I would just because its open and I would already have a roll of the correct stuff to take some from to use. In your case you would have to purchase an entire roll to take off 5'. If you know someone who has a roll I would get some from them if you can. Other wise use some vapour barrier tape and seal up any holes or cuts in the existing stuff and move forward.

What I do notice is it is not sealed at the floor ? I would use some acoustical caulking and staples and fix that.
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Post by Shannon » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:07 pm

That essence tub and wall system is a pretty easy install, I have done many of them. I believe we have discussed them earlier with you?
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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:14 pm

Thank you for your reply. It is important for me to hear 2nd opinion live)))) The film is not attached at the very bottom. It is held under 2x4 going across above green osb. I do have leftovers of 6 mil film.
Yes we discussed some properties of essence tub surround in my first post

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Post by Aaron » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:05 pm

You should use acoustical caulk to really stick it good to the wood along with some staples. Then you will have a good vapor tight seal.

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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:08 pm

Good day,
So I tried to dry fit the tub and it turned out that the tub landing spot is a bit narrower, see the picture, than the tub 31" on widest corners.
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Can I still cut out a 1.25" stripe from the sub floor ? I am going to c/o vinyl any way.

Second question is the position of the joists.
It looks like a while back it was modified.
Is it code correct if I reposition the joist? Or I can cut out more of dry wall? Right now I do not have enough room to maneuver the tub in place, due to the joist sitting lengthwise
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Post by Shannon » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:11 pm

Yes you can cut the sub floor back to what you need. Give it a extra 1/8” so tub does not rub against it and squeak.

I think you are referring to the stud/wall blocking ? A joist is a floor framing member.
You can remove that stud that is turned sideways to give you space in the wall cavity to help get the tub tilted into place . You will likely need to re install after do the shower walls can be attached.
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Post by nfpagroup1 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:36 am

I would just because its open and I would already have a roll of the correct stuff to take some from to use.

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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:36 pm

Good night/day to everyone,
So I tried to dry fit the tub and the walls.
And lengthwise the tub is an inch shorter.
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I can shim it to the studs. But How to finish it around with dry wall?

Another question is how to minimize the gaps between the wall panels?
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Is it a must to shim the tub? Mine sits leveled, but I know that the support feet on the bottom are not the the same thickness/height. While standing in the dry fitted tub I tried to rock it, but it sits solid

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Post by Shannon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:19 am

The best thing is to add furring strips to the entire wall to get everything on the same plane. This will make finishing around the unit easy. So decide which wall this makes more sense to do and shift the tub unit accordingly .
Gaps around wall panels is really not adjustable. If its sitting down tightish on the ends you will not be able to close the centre area much at all.In the picture the ends and side joins look pretty normal (1/8 to 3/16) the centre of back wall is a little more open but not much you can do with it if the two ends are pretty close.
Try and shim the feet. I believe the instructions say that they need to be within 1/8" of being supported at the most.
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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:00 am

Thanks, Shannon and good morning,
Shannon wrote:
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add furring strips to the entire wall
Then I will do the wall where the pluming hides and add water shut off valves and switch to pex.
Do theses furring strips go across the studs or vertically?

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Post by Shannon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:54 pm

Vertically on each stud
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Post by Shannon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:56 pm

If it is no more then 1” I would use strips of 1x4 or 3/4” plywood . You will then shim the tub as needed after that . This should be enough .
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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Ruzty » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:52 pm

Hello,

What is the right sequence to put everything back?
1. Tub pluming
2. Tub
3. Tub Wall Panels
4. Sink & Toilet Pluming
4A. Lightning fixture
5. Dry Walls
6. Floor
7. Sink cabinet and toilet
8.Paint & Trims

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Re: My Bathroom Project

Post by Shannon » Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:05 pm

If you can ,install the tub and drain plumbing first then the water valve and plumbing. This way you can measure right off the tub for heights and center.
Then tub walls and continue on down your list.
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