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Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:06 am
by Aaron
Anyone have testimonials for smart thermostats? I'm deciding about replacing my Honeywell with an Ecobee3. They are selling refurbs for $130, and I figure with the smartphone app and stuff it would be awesome to control the temp of the house anywhere.

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:31 am
by Admin
Yep, I'm on my 3rd one. I had the Nest, got rid of it when Google bought them. Overall it was pretty good but the whole Goog thing is a separate topic for me. The other downside of that one was that if you didn't walk by the thermostat in the hallway sometimes it would think I was away when I was home.

Then I went to a Honeywell WiFi with touch screen (forget the exact model), I liked that and still use it at a second property. Now I have the ecobee. I like it the best so far because it can use the remote sensors so I can have more data from different floors in the house. I particularly like that I can set the fan to run for say 5 or 10 minutes each hour to help circulate air and balance the temp somewhat.

I'm into tech somewhat so I like that I can view & change the temp at home. For example if I'm away I can see that the heat is still operating in winter, and turn the heat back up an hour before I get home. You can schedule vacation mode if you want, too. Check out Amazon for more opinions.

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:24 pm
by Aaron
Yeah I like the sensors that ecobee has. I have a tenant that lives above me that complains about it being too warm up there. Unfortunately my duplex just has one HVAC for the whole house. I'd love for it to keep an acceptable temp for him upstairs, but I also suggested he could install a small window AC unit if he needs to (at his expense of electricity, of course, since that *is* separated in this house).

At $130 for the refurb I figure it's definitely worth experimenting.

I agree with your sentiment about Google.

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm
by A. Spruce
For a minute there I thought you were talking about Nutzy and your phone auto-corrected what you really wrote to "smart stats". :mrgreen: :lol:

You guys hear that when Google/YT went down the other day that people lost the ability to control things like heat and ac? I'm not a fan of "smart" gadgets for a multitude of reasons, least of which is not being able to use something when there is the slightest glitch in the matrix. With these smart stats, are there provisions for manual operation in the event of an emergency/system malfunction/what-have-you?

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:27 pm
by Aaron
Yeah I'm sure all these companies are harvesting all sorts of data about what temps people keep their houses at and stuff, and selling that data for market research. It's an unsavory thing.

ecobee seems to "be" its own company, so I like that aspect.

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:15 pm
by Admin
A. Spruce wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm
You guys hear that when Google/YT went down the other day that people lost the ability to control things like heat and ac?
I didn't hear that but I barely use Google products, aside from YouTube.
A. Spruce wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm
...are there provisions for manual operation in the event of an emergency/system malfunction/what-have-you?
You can still operate the thermostat if you are physically operating it.
Aaron wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:27 pm
...ecobee seems to "be" its own company, so I like that aspect.
As far as I know they are. And ecobee is also Canadian, so that helps ;)

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:38 pm
by emtnut
Best T-stat ever made ... just turn it down when you leave :mrgreen:

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:03 pm
by Shannon
emtnut wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:38 pm
Best T-stat ever made ... just turn it down when you leave :mrgreen:
Old school! I love it!

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:22 pm
by Aaron
Shannon wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:03 pm
emtnut wrote: Best T-stat ever made ... just turn it down when you leave :mrgreen:
Old school! I love it!
No kidding, it's just a two-wire one, it doesn't even have fan or AC/heat controls like the SLIGHTLY newer ones had!

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Re: Smart stats

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:00 pm
by emtnut
Aaron wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:22 pm
Shannon wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:03 pm


Old school! I love it!
No kidding, it's just a two-wire one, it doesn't even have fan or AC/heat controls like the SLIGHTLY newer ones had!


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And a mercury switch ... the ones from the 50's and 60's are still tickin :mrgreen:

Re: Smart stats

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:34 pm
by Aaron
Yeah even that one I posted above with the AC/heat switch and fan switch still uses a mercury vial. My uncle, an HVAC guy, installed that same unit in this house in the mid 90s before I upgraded it to programmable.

No mercury anymore... The really low cost analog stats today just use a bimetal coil with a magnet to control the open/close.