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Light Wiring

Post by Dia » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:29 am

Hey, another question for you:

I just changed a light fixture and noticed that it was connected by creating a tight loop in the wires to join them and then covered in electrical tape. Is/was this an acceptable thing in Ontario?


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Re: Light Wiring

Post by Aaron » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:54 am

No, that is not an acceptable splice. I would cut off that splice, re-strip the wires, twist them together tightly and then cap it with a wirenut (marette).

Use the smallest ones that work for the size you’re splicing. For light fixtures I usually use the orange ones.

If one wire is stranded, as they often are on fixtures, you can just wrap it around a 1/4 inch of straight, exposed solid copper wire. Then twist the nut on.

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Post by Dia » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:06 am

I think they had an electrician in who effed up almost everything he/she touched, because from the looks of some of this stuff, the place should have burnt to a crisp by now.

That's almost exactly what I did, except I connected the grounding wire to the box, and there's one yellow cone for all the neutral wires.

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Re: Light Wiring

Post by Aaron » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:08 pm

As long as the wires were tightly twisted and wrapped with a couple ply's of electrical tape, then it electrically it actually was a good splice. Most vinyl electrical tape is lousy, though, because it has a tendency to become undone, revealing the bare splice, which is dangerous. A good tight wirenut on a splice should never come undone.

I've found splices in my old house with knob-and-tube wiring that were tape-wrapped. But they used a type of cloth tape back then and it really held up very well over the decades. If I wasn't reconfiguring the circuits, I might have left it alone.

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Re: Light Wiring

Post by Dia » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:20 pm

Really?

I find it being an acceptable way to do things crazy because the tape was so crusty and flimsy that it fell off pretty easily. Kinda scary, thanks for all the info though!

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Re: Light Wiring

Post by emtnut » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:27 pm

I think you're house was owned by a very unskilled handyman :o

Glad you replaced with wirenuts .... I guess the next job is to check ALL the device boxes in the house :cry:
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Re: Light Wiring

Post by Dia » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:42 pm

emtnut wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:27 pm
I think you're house was owned by a very unskilled handyman :o

Glad you replaced with wirenuts .... I guess the next job is to check ALL the device boxes in the house :cry:
That is next on the list! What are you doin' later? :)
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This was the piece I snipped off, does it look tight enough to have been done professionally?

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Re: Light Wiring

Post by A. Spruce » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:04 am

emtnut wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:27 pm
I think you're house was owned by a very unskilled handyman :o
That would be unskilled UNhandyman! :lol:
Dia wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:42 pm
This was the piece I snipped off, does it look tight enough to have been done professionally?
Yeowza!!! :shock: That is not an approved connection, nor was it ever! :roll: As much as the job will suck to do, Nutzy is right, every box in the house should be checked and corrected. While you're at it, mapping the electrical system to make sure that circuit loads are within reason wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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Re: Light Wiring

Post by Aaron » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:39 am

Dia wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:42 pm
This was the piece I snipped off, does it look tight enough to have been done professionally?
It will work, yes, but it’s not professional nor the right way to do it. You don’t ever curl wires with splices, you twist them and use wirenuts/marettes.

Just as easy to do it the right way as it was the way you found it!

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Re: Light Wiring

Post by emtnut » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:15 am

Dia wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:42 pm
emtnut wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:27 pm
I think you're house was owned by a very unskilled handyman :o

Glad you replaced with wirenuts .... I guess the next job is to check ALL the device boxes in the house :cry:
That is next on the list! What are you doin' later? :)

twisted stub.jpg

This was the piece I snipped off, does it look tight enough to have been done professionally?
Well, mostly my daughters bathroom/house renos ... but I'll keep an eye here for the next post of the wonderful 'handywork' you show us :mrgreen:
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