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Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:57 am

Wife and I built this porch last summer. Ran out of money for roof. When I thought about it, the weird lip sort of makes this an insanely hard project, at least in my mind. Any ideas for a roof? And I mean any, as long as they look ok.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by A. Spruce » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:14 am

Because of the height of the house roof, there is no way to gracefully tie a solid porch roof into it. Also, because the porch extends away from the house, there is no way you'll be able continue the plane of the house roof into the porch. Extending the gutter line out to the end of the porch will result in a flat roof, which will neither be all that attractive or functional.

Therefore, I would create more of a shade screen to keep the sun directly off the porch area, rather than trying to build a solid roof system. Because of the size of the porch, a solid roof isn't going to keep anything dry anyway. You could extend the house roof a little bit, maybe 4'-6' to give a little more cover from water near the house, but there really isn't going to be a way to put a solid roof over the entire porch that is going to look good and or tie aesthetically into the house.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:23 pm

Ok awesome. What kind of shade screen would look ok do you think?

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Re: Front porch cover

Post by A. Spruce » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:23 pm

I'm going to recant slightly. If you were to build a gable roof and tie that in, rather than extending the existing slope as I was thinking earlier, you could tie into the house fairly aesthetically. The house looks to be about a 4/12 pitch, the porch, because it's long and narrow, might need to be a little less, maybe a 3/12, simply to keep the proportion of the long skinny porch under control.

If you go with a shade screen, the sky is the limit with design. I would recommend finding lots of pictures to look at for ideas because there are simply too many to be able to coherently offer advice here. When you have a specific design in mind, then we can help with how to build it. One thing that may help in your design is if you use a shade cloth over the shade screen structure, this would allow a more open/airy design and the shade cloth will give you more flexibility. If you don't know what shade cloth is, it's the stuff that you see over the outside garden department at a big box.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:26 pm

What I can't get around is the stupid half lip on the front of the house. Even if I built the gable roof which is what the wife wants, what would I do about the weird gutter lip thing?

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Re: Front porch cover

Post by A. Spruce » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:04 pm

You have a couple of options, extend the eave on the house out to where you need it to intersect with the porch roof on the left side and use the lower gutter line.
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Or cut the eave back to the house wall and use the high point for your porch roof gutter line, the right side would be above the house gutter line and you could easily put a wall there between the two gutter heights to weatherproof the house wall nicely.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Shannon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:41 pm

If this is the front of the house can you even build a covered roof here because you may be getting to close to the street? There are rules for set back allowances.

I would suggest a interesting roof with a gable on this front end but to do that you would need to install beams from the house wall to each post. This would be pretty doable on the rightside (as we look at the picture ) but on the left side this would mean beefing up the header and support over that window because the new beam would sit there.
What about 2 more posts and a free standing roof?
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:58 pm

Oh I like that too. What about the roof; if I tie into it wouldn't I have to tear the shingles up and re run them?

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Post by Shannon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:01 pm

Yes the shingles would need to be removed and replaced partially on that end of house. The header over the window would need some professional engineering to satisfy a building permit most likely.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:37 am

Ya it's Tennessee unfortunately no one cares what you do to your house, nor how you do it. I could install a covered bridge in the middle of the street out of popsicle sticks and bubble gum and no one would question it.

I will be doing the work myself. I am handy, just slow and methodical. It'll probably take a month of weekends to do a porch cover.

Free standing cover- what's that like?

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Re: Front porch cover

Post by A. Spruce » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:19 pm

Billythegrape wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:37 am
Free standing cover- what's that like?
Freestanding simply means that it's not attached to the house in any way. This was where I was going initially, it should be a bit cheaper since you're not framing as much nor disturbing the house roof. Because it's not attached, you have to add in structural bracing to keep it from swaying and racking, all of which should be complimentary to the overall design

As far as design, you are not in any way limited simply because it's not attached.
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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Billythegrape » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:42 am

Cool. Hey thanks guys, I appreciate it. It's hard to think when your wife is insisting on one thing.

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Re: Front porch cover

Post by Shannon » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:27 pm

Ya sometimes you get one idea in your mind and it is hard to see past that to others.
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